Monday, December 11, 2017

TV Discussion: December 2017 - February 2018

Hello fellow TV Addicts!  This is our spot for the next few months to talk all things TV until The Walking Dead recaps return!  See you in the comments!


MJ said...

Saw Split last night - awesome movie. Had no idea it was secret sequel to another movie - won't spoil it here.

Punisher - think I have 2 more to go. It's ok - not too bad. More character driven then I would have thought. Very strong female cop type - just like in Luke Cage. LOL And Karen is in it of course.

Speaking of - Jessica Jones is back in March !

Lots of stuff ending this week so my hope is that I can start catching up on Shameless. I only just watched the t-giving eps of Modern family and Gbergs. LOL

MJ said...

SW - glanced at a few reviews - which were only allowed to post at noon today - they seem pretty good. I did not read details - don't want to be spoiled. But they seemed pretty positive. Heard there is a light saber fight to end all fights. And that with no death star to be stopped to weigh down the plot it goes to some pretty interesting places.

Mike V. said...

SW - I'm not even reading your post because I don't want to know reviews. Already accidentally saw a few headlines. Trying to stay uninfluenced by people's thoughts! lol

MJ said...

SW - only read good stuff ! When do you go ? Figuring opening night ?

Mike V. said...

SW - Oh I know it's good stuff. It's still a case of not wanting to set my expectations too high. lol I just like to go in with as clear of an opinion as possible. It's tough when you see Rian Johnson has signed on for a whole other trilogy so Disney definitely thinks it's a great movie. lol No fear, I have Reddit to keep my expectations in check. People that have seen it are already complaining that it's a departure from Lucas's vision. There will always be complainers. one really knows what Lucas's vision was for 7-9, just that Disney didn't go exactly with it. lol Plus...I'm all for opening up the sandbox to see other people's interpretations of Star Wars while maintaining consistency of the brand! It sounds like Rian has gotten the "star wars feel" right. We'll see.

I am going tomorrow night for the first possible non-marathon screening. lol (there are some people starting today watching Phantom Menace through to Force Awakens including Rogue One. And there's also a double header with Force Awakens and Last Jedi. Both of these marathons allow you to see the movie an hour earlier. lol I'm also taking my son on Friday. He's super psyched and has no idea I'm going tomorrow night. It's been my process the past 3 films. Screen it for bad parts and allow me to listen to the movie without interruptions! Then Watch with him and help him through it. I think for Han Solo in May I'll let him tag along for the Thursday screening! :)

Gifted - All caught up. That girl ESME is super annoying. All of those knowing glances that she was "up to something" were horrible! lol Can't believe they killed off the one girl. But that opens up romantic possibilities for Jamie Chung and the leader of the group with the girly hair. lol

Finally caught up on all TV. Mr. Robot finale on tonight then I think everything is on hiatus. Maybe I can make a dent in Punisher...or I'll just want to watch Star Wars 24/7 lol

Anonymous said...

Star Wars ranking of characters. Of course I have huge problems with Rey being so high and Qui Gon for example at 28th, lol. Liam is an actor, whoever plays Rey is not much of one.

Mike V. said...

This is a character ranking though not acting ability ranking. Lol hence why Anakin is ranked 1st. His story is the central story to the saga but Hayden wasn’t very great in the films. And to each his own on daisy Ridley. I think she’s a phenomenal find!

You going to see last Jedi Richard?

Anonymous said...

That's a fair point, character vs actor. It's hard to separate them however when their only appearance is via the big screen, IE no book for example.

I have no plans to see at this time.


Mike V. said...

There are plenty of Star Wars books that are now canon to the on screen story. But more supplemental than necessary to read. However there will be a novelization of last Jedi like every other film. It comes out in March.

Anonymous said...

Vikings--Keivan Russ Vikings. Hmm that's an interesting viewpoint. Astrid marrying Harald is crazy of course. Last we saw she was with Bjorn. Seems like she goes after whoever she thinks will win. Bjorn in the Med dealing with muslims. That did get interesting. But he went in conquering so I'm not sure what the show is up to.


MJ said...

SW - so how was it ???

I love the actress playing Rey ! I thought she was great. Kylo ren was annoying - hear he's better in this one.

Punisher - finished it.

Hoping to watch Shameless this coming week, maybe Robot. But I am christmasing like crazy - have 14 people coming to my house next Saturday.

Mike V. said...

SW - it was different! Lol I enjoyed it but still processing. Did some reading up on people’s reactions and I’m excited to go see again with my son today. It definitely was not a carbon copy of things that came before! Lol funnier than expected too. There’s a lot of weird and a lot of amazing visuals and performances. Rey is great. Adam driver (kylo) has some amazing acting. Don’t want to say too much.

MJ said...

Yeah - I have heard that they have opened up the SW universe quite a bit more. And I purposely let myself get spoiled on Rey's parentage and how we were all wrong. LOL. And I am ok if they did not follow Lucas - it was time for a new direction. Sure I am in the minority about that though

MJ said...

I never felt ALL of Lucas's stories and charcters were always stellar. LOL His direction is stiff and dialog often corny. Doesn't mean I didn't love them - but yeah as I got older I wanted more from it.

Mike V. said...

SW - definitely okay with them not following Lucas to a tee. But there are some principles they should adhere to while they are working on the Skywalker saga. Rian Johnson’s new trilogy can explore different families and ideas. Lol

The prequel stories themselves were good. They were just executed poorly due to Lucas being viewed as the god of Star Wars and no one challenging him or helping him creatively. With the original trilogy he had lots of help including his ex wife who edited them all and suggested some of the most famous scenes.

Anyway I’m ready to see it again and decide my feelings! We can chat more after you see it!

MJ said...

AHS - watched 2 more. His whole male group of followers is just weird. And Kai trying to say he's Oz's father and Ally then knows he's not but pretends he is. Ok. And Ally kills her lover Ivy. And Rick Springfield was in it ! Think I have 2 more to go.

MJ said...

SW - wow - hearing a lot of people are angry with the movie Feel it tarnishes or removes Luke's legend. I have not seen it and can't say either way - but there is never a way to please everyone.

Mike V. said...

There will always be haters. It certainly was different. But not in a bad way. I had a lot of built up expectations but I try to go in with an open mind. When I watched the 2nd time I absolutely loved it. I compare it to LOST with people having all of these theories that don’t pan out so they hate it. The internet basically hates everything now. Even movies that are generally well received. Give it a year and everyone will have found a reason to hate it.

Rian Johnson did a great job. And it gets better with every viewing. Can’t wait to see it a 3rd time!

MJ said...

SW - cool !

Well - I am off until after the holidays.

Everyone - have a great holiday !

Mike V. said...

Thanks MJ happy holidays and new year to you as well! (Been off since Wednesday and don’t go back until 2018!)

MJ said...

Shield - Love that Hunter was back - now we need Bobbi ! Only Fitz would break back into the secret facility he just broke out of. Nice call back to the little girl with the wooden Robin too.

Shameless - never got to it. Managed to get my LOTR trilogy - extended editions - watched though. Gosh they are so long. LOL

MJ said...

Shameless - watched first 4 of season. Loved Franks 'amends' and Apt Mgr Fiona. Had forgotten Monica died and left them the Meth. Kevin and his breast checking is hysterical. The coke pizza was good too - though it back fired. And how is Ian able to just give away all those supplies from the ambulance ? Deb is a hot mess - I'd forgotten about the para boyfriend. And OMG on Ian's tat - and that bar ! Not sure how Monica's ex knew they had the meth but look at Frank for actually helping them all out of it - of course they had to dig the mom up ! LOL But oh my - I watched the ep where they went to Kentucky to meet Kevins kin. LOL And married Sean showed up.

Americans - saw a 'first look' at Americans upcoming final season. I shall miss this show. Spoiler - they will start the season 3 years after last season which puts Paige in college.

Mike V. said...

Happy New Year!

Shield - Looks like I need to catch up! lol Might be 2 behind.

Shameless - 1 behind now. Yeah the season has been entertaining. But when we finally were set to get back in our routine (school, work, etc...) we didn't want to watch Sunday night's ep. lol So we'll get to it eventually.

LOTR - I've been trucking through those as well (Extended). Started months ago. Yeah they're TOO long. It's nice to have those versions but I wish I had blu-ray or HD digital of the theatrical cuts. Only have DVDs lol (1st world problems I know)

Vikings - 2 behind now I think

Mindhunter - Had heard good things about this one on Netflix. Watched first ep. It's interesting so far. I heard it just gets better so we'll see. Also heard Godless is really good. Just no time to watch all of this stuff!

Black Mirror - 2 eps into the season, started the 3rd. 2nd ep I saw where it was going pretty early on. Very relatable. lol 1st ep was pretty good. I heard the 2nd half of the season is where the gems are though.

Americans - Looking forward to final season. Last season definitely felt like a "stalling until final season" approach. So, this one things should start hitting the fan!

Last Jedi - Watched it 3 times now. Love it more each time. But, I know there is a legion of people that absolutely hate it. I would assume if Richard ever watches it he'll be in that group. lol But, it's an entertaining and well shot movie and opens the door for the future of the series. The originals are untouchable in my opinion. They're classic films and will always be the best. But, I like what Star Wars looks like in 2018 too. :)

MJ said...

Mindhunter and Goddess are on my list. ;-D

Shameless - all caught up. Kevin and V are off the hook this year.

Black Mirror - heard Amazon has a very similar series that is good. I still have not watched last season. But I will get there

SW - was hoping to go tomorrow - but now with the weather... Just rewatched last one to get ready though.

Mike V. said...

Mindhunter - 2 eps in. Liked 2nd ep better!

Black Mirror - on 5th episode now. 4th episode was really good! I liked 1 and 4 the best of this season so far. But 2 and 3 were still good. Hmmm wonder what the amazon show is.

Shameless - We still haven't caught up.

SW - ugh...we weren't supposed to get hit too badly but now it's looking worse of course!

Anonymous said...

Vikings--So Ivar has his munk like Ragnar did. Bjorn and the new girl. Astrid pregnant,hmm. Floki and his clan--there are always complainers.

X Files--Mulder isn't Daddy, interesting twist. Scully and son are special since she was injected with alien stuff. The world will end, hmm. I don't think so. I'm having a hard time feeling any kind of tension/threat from the smoking man's objective due to the consequences if he wins.

Seals--again, good stuff. I began wondering about the daughter about half way in.

Blacklist--So, is this a reboot of sorts. And yes, Liz is now more like Red than ever. Which is the over arching story I thought it would be.

Knights--ok, just entertainment but I like the era.

Saw Justice and it was pretty good. DC catching up. And of course they have Super Man! Still don't get WW flying? vs having the invisible jet. Missed the new Thor movie.


Anonymous said...

Oh and NO, NADA, ZERO Game of Thrones for 2018! Oh well, plenty of other stuff out there.


Mike V. said...

X Files - Definitely crazy twist. But then again I totally forgot we knew that Smoking Man is Mulder's father. lol I was an on and off fan of X-Files but have watched all episodes of the recent seasons.

Vikings - I think I'm 4 behind on this one. Holidays really threw me off!

SHIELD - 1 behind but will be 2 behind after tonight!

Black Mirror - Watched all of it! Liked 1, 4 and 6 the best.

Justice League - it was entertaining. Not sure if they're on par with Marvel yet but it was watchable. Wonder Woman was really good. I liked the new Thor movie. WW flying? I thought she just jumped really high. lol

Thrones - I think it was a foregone conclusion, but yeah now it's official. Here's the big question and the answer is most likely no. lol Will GRRM finally release Winds of Winter this year?

Mike V. said...

Vikings - Catching up. Have 1.5 eps left. IVAR and Monk - Definitely saw some mirroring to Ragnar and Athelstan (sp) as well. The whole Floki and his God Island is bizarre.

And of course, just like Thrones they sure are traveling a lot more quickly these days! Yada yada yadaing the journeys! But it makes sense for all the shows. You see it once, or 5 times eventually it gets to be too much. Liking Bjorn's trip to Sicily. Different look for the show.

Agents of SHIELD - Caught up and enjoying this season. Loved the Fitz episode with Hunter.

Mindhunter - 3 eps in. still really good. Just finding the time to watch is a struggle! It's coming at a cost. I'm still behind on Modern Family and BBT and Shameless (2 now).

MJ said...

Phillip K Dicks Electric Dreams - heard it was Black Mirror - like.

Mindhunter - watched 3 - very good.

Xfiles - WTH ? Cigarette man is Mulders dad ? whaaat? I forgot too. Had a hard time getting back into it actually. Hear it's the last year for actress who plays sculy

Shield - yeah Hunter and Fitz were great.

I Zombie back on 2/26 !!!

Mike V. said...

Ahhh....That reminds me of the Fringe episode something "dreams of electric sheep" was a nod to Philip K Dick as well. Might have to look into that one. I think I did hear about it.

X-Files - yeah glad I'm not the only one that didn't remember that! Apparently, Fox said to "never say never" with Gillian Anderson. Similar to Daniel Craig with depends when you're asking them. It's a lot of hard word, and sometimes it's the last thing they want to think about. Even Daisy Ridley said she'd be done with Star Wars after ep IX, but that may only mean Disney hasn't talked to her about any potential spinoffs/anthology movies or whatever.

Nice on iZombie! I need to get some of this stuff off my plate before then. lol

Vikings - Caught up...looking like a showdown in Katteget (Sp) is imminent! I love how everyone is just randomly swapping partners. lol And poor Astrid is going to be on a future episode of Maury with her child..."YOU'RE NOT THE FATHER!!!" lol (I joke, but that was a pretty brutal scene) WTH is Floki up to??? Has he lost his mind? It was never totally there. lol

Gifted - Essentially caught up. I have 5 minutes left in the latest episode.

This is Us - I think last night's episode was the best of the season. That therapy session was some powerful stuff counterbalanced by hilarious bar scene with "the new big 3" lol Even the fallout on the park bench was great...and then the final moments with mom and Kevin and the flashback. All great stuff.

Anonymous said...

Vikings--what BS, utter BS was the last ep.


Mike V. said...

Vikings - Oh come on. You didn't REALLY think they'd kill Lagertha did you? LOL Or are you more annoyed that Ivar lost? Or are you still as perplexed as I am with the bizarre Floki story? lol At one point I thought Ivar was pulling a fast one on his ally King (forget his name...married to Astrid) and was going to surround him and kill him. But no...he was just out of harm's way the whole battle.

X-Files - Halfway through the latest episode. Cool that they're tying in the Lone Gunman. Some nice comedy sprinkled in there too.

MJ said...

Mindhunter - finished it ! We were obsessed. LOL

So behind on every other thing now. LOL

Quit Xfiles.

You check out 911 ? Has one of your fave actresses in it. I did not - too much stuff.

Mike V. said...

Mindhunter - wow! Nice work. We really want to just watch that but there's so much to keep on top of! Maybe we'll sneak in an ep tonight. lol So I guess it was good? :)

911 - Connie Britton? Yeah she's great. My wife loves Peter Krauss too. We actually did watch the pilot last week. You know how I feel about procedurals. lol But this is a Ryan Murphy procedural with his arsenal of stars behind it. Was listening to a podcast today and they speculated that something like this might not survive the Disney/Fox merger. They thought maybe it could live a different kind of life on FX where it could contain more adult themes/language and all that fun stuff (a la Sneaky Pete on Amazon which had a pilot designed for CBS)....but it was all speculation. My wife really enjoyed so we may try to keep up.

We're really only getting like an hour per night or less to watch something after the kids are asleep...and even then I'm dead tired because I wake up so early (for treadmill shows!! lol So I do watch most of the TV we discuss here then. lol)

MJ - did you see Last Jedi yet? I'm assuming Richard will NEVER see another Disney produced Star Wars film. lol

Anonymous said...

Correct, as they are proceeding I have no desire to see another SW film.

XFiles--there is no real canon with this story so I just take it as it comes. It's entertaining. I think the Skinner stuff is interesting.

Vikings--the last ep makes me wonder why I should keep watching. SEriously, it's going opposite of history. Harold Finehair was a ruthless King for a while and on this TV show he's a struggling looser. The Lagertha stuff is just made up BS and never existed. Bjorn becomes a big time King too. He may make it on the TV show. I get the Floki stuff since the Vikings founded Iceland this is what the story is about. The show has always had some crazy spiritual stuff going on and so with Floki here you go. It's somewhat silly to me and should be a lot better. BTW, they never explained not showing Rollo!! He founded the Normans and that story is just off the radar!! Crazy. They have a LOT of great stories to tell but have instead focused on utter BS. I'm loosing interest.


MJ said...

Mindhunter - yes - very good. Won't say anything

SW - no still haven't seen. Work been crazy so been afraid to buy tickets in advance. LOL

This is Us - it really was a great episode. Loved the new Big 3 ! Too funny. Therapy very moving. Glad they showed Kevin really having a moment with the mom back in the day - we'd not seen that before. But If I were married to Jack I'd have kicked his ass - always making her the bad guy.

MJ said...

SW - going Friday !

MJ said...

Mindhunter - don't know how far in you are. Obvioulsy they travel to prisons to talk to killers. Have you figured out who the guy is they keep showing on the outside in a coat and always mailing things ?

MJ said...

Black Lightning any one watch ?

TWD - renewed - no surprise. But with a new show runner ! maybe now they will shake up the formula - tired of the whole - all together - separate the chars - tell individual stories for weeks - bring them all back together - repeat.

Mike V. said...

Twd- didn’t see it was a new show runner. I’ll have to actually read the article! Lol I’m tired of formula too!

Black lightning - is this another dc show? I’ll provably wait 2 seasons again and binge lol

Mind hunter - 4 eps in i think. I probably haven’t been lying enough attention of side /background characters to notice or try to guess! Lol

Anonymous said...

Counterpart--anybody going to watch?

I haven't heard of Mind Hunter nor Black Lightning btw.

Seals is still great.

Vikings--I don't recall Alfred being sickly. Another battle, wonder if it will result in some real history.


Mike V. said...

Counterpart - is that the JK Simmons show? I have it on my list to set to record. Whether I get around to watching is a different thing all together! :)

Black Lightning is another CW show, appears to be a superhero show but don't know if it's in the DC CW-verse like the other ones. But it appears to be on in place of Legends of Tomorrow for now. I think it's because they do shorter seasons then the rest of the CW super-shows.

Mind Hunter is a 70s throwback to doing initial research on Serial Killers (before they were recognized as even a thing). It's pretty good stuff. But I'm going through it slowly. (Netflix)

Vikings - Maybe that's how they got away with what they did in the first battle because they'll course correct in this next one. Interesting episode last night. The whole England story was awfully executed. lol All of those new actors were pretty rough. Now the priest/monk dude is on Lagertha's side and there were hints of "interest" on both sides??

X-Files - I half-watched, half was busy doing other things but it was okay.

MJ said...

Counterpart - never heard of it

Black Lightning - not sure if DC - heard very good. Different then others in that he hero is an older guy - not a 20 something

Good Place - not seen since it returned

Mindhunter - oh thought you were further in. Might not have seen guy yet

Shamless - you up on it ? Been pretty good. 1 behind now.

This is Us - now Randall wants to buy or fix up an apartment building ? Not following that one

Star Wars tonight !

MJ said...

Star Wars - I loved it ! Movie was excellent. I don't know what all that bitching was about. And I can't figure how many said they ruined Luke's legacy either.

Mike V. said...

SW – Glad you loved it! I get if you spent 2 years theorizing that the first viewing was a lot to take in. It completely subverted all expectations. Lol I enjoyed it but I was still thinking, “what did I just watch?” 2nd time I went with my son and wife. She was crying at all Carrie scenes, he was jumping up and down in excitement at everything and I was enjoying the film knowing where it was going. I’ve seen it 3 times now and love it more each time I see! Nothing was ruined with Luke’s legacy. People get b***hurt over everything these days. I’ve almost given up on humanity. Lol I think they believe that Luke would never behave the way he did. Run away from a fight, give up on Ben Solo, etc… I think it was clear the flashbacks were showing points of view and the ACTUAL story in the 3rd flashback showed he had a fleeting thought that had severe consequences. As for fleeing…so did Yoda, so did Obi….he came back in a big way in the end. People also had visions of grand master Luke doing something like ripping a star destroyer out of the sky. But, they showed him super strong in the force in another way. The whole movie was very well made. People have other issues with it (flying Leia, storylines that go nowhere – lessons in Failure…Yoda says it himself, Snoke not getting a backstory)…..but whatever…it was awesome!

Counterpart – JK simmons doppleganger show. I recorded. Didn’t watch. (STARZ)
Good Place – probably my favorite show on TV right now. Last week’s was amazing and so funny!

Mindhunter – still only 4 eps in. lol

Shameless – 4 behind 

This is Us – 2nd favorite show lol It was about helping Randall’s wife who had just lost a project in Jersey or something…So he gave her this opportunity.
Scandal – “SPOILERS”Still**** - vague but I don’t think Quinn is dead. If she is at least we’ll see how it happened next week. Lol

MJ said...

Black Lightning - wasn't bad. Again the guy wears goggles over his eyes and his daughters don't even recognize him - like so many super heros. LOL

Shield - Whaaat ? LOL I was confused on this last one. The last two actually. But liked the twist that May actually raised Robin.

SW - yeah flying Leia was amusing - but no worse then many other movies and scenes. I totally did not pick up that Luke was a hologram. The only thing I thought people might have meant about Luke's legacy is that he admits to standing over Kylo and was going to kill him. I don't think it ruined any thing. Luke grew up - he's seen many hard things. Was he supposed to stay the dewey eyed dreamer ? That would be dumb. And only predictable thing was Kylo being so blinded by his hate of Luke that he did not do what he wanted - which was kill the remaining rebels. All bad guys do that stuff - or talk about it for so long the hero gets away. LOL

Good Place - I am behind still

This is Us - huh ! I missed that it was for Beth somehow. Or just forgot.

Mike V. said...

SHIELD - Oh yeah watched that this morning. Definitely confusing with the timelines. Seems like they're in an endless time loop until they can figure out a way to save the world. So they'll go back in time and May will raise Robin. That's what it seems like at least?? I dunno...I'm sure we'll find out more!

SW - There are some funny memes of Mary Poppins in space or Leia dressed as Mary Poppins saying "I'm Mary Poppins Y'all!" like Yondu in Guardians of the Galaxy 2. lol I thought the concept of her using the force was more powerful than how it looked! Return of the Jedi "You have that power too. In time you'll learn to use it as I have." He admitted to a "fleeting moment" of weakness where he though of killing Kylo, but couldn't bring himself to do it. But the damage was done. EXACTLY....Luke was 30 years older and was not the wide eyed kid full of optimism. How would you be if you restarted the Jedi Order and then it got wiped out AGAIN? Granted...that goes to another complaint that Disney is just rendering what the original trilogy characters accomplished as pointless (everything repeats). But, I don't see it that way.

Anonymous said...

Counterpart--decent show. Won't comment more to avoid spoilers.

Vikings--There's some shows of "real" Vikings to precede the next ep. They usually do that for a send off. They did at least one of those with too much speculation so be guardful of what they say is true.

BTW, did I ever tell you guys I have a sword. Not a replica.


Anonymous said...

Sword--it's a German sword btw.


Mike V. said...

Sword - lol I don't know if you told us Richard, but I'm not surprised. Seems like something you might have told us!

Vikings - This is the mid-season finale this week right? I think they do 20 episode seasons now but break it up 10 and 10. or something like that.

counterpart - maybe I'll get to it. Gotta see if the Mrs. is interested. We have a backlog of shows to watch right now!

Punisher - working through this now. It's well made. Not sure if I'm super interested or not but it passes the treadmill time. lol

Supergirl - I had to laugh at this week's Girl Power episode. People with a Y chromosome will be poisoned?? LOL Too funny. RIP Electric girl. lol

MJ said...

Sword - very cool.

Punisher - it was ok

This is US - I did not watch but heard they reveal how Jack dies ?

Mike V. said...

Punisher - that's about all I can muster up as a review as well. lol

This is Us - Basically, but not fully. Tune in after the Super bowl for all answers! lol Great episode!

Anonymous said...

Vikings--so much wasted time on stuff that never happened, lol. Interestingly the other wife, not Lagertha was a real queen and that was in part due to her father and Ragnar. The notion that they had a battle but then let everybody go back to get ready for another battle was silly. I loved seeing Rollo at the end. Interesting that the Normans were playing a part in the internal Vikings wars. Rollo was a legit ruler who's legacy impacts the French and English for centuries. Rollo and Ragnar being brothers, well that's a stretch for sure.


Anonymous said...

X Files--What a crazy ep! I loved it. It pokes so much fun at Trump however that it became political which I hate. Corruption at FBI by some is a fact, doesn't mean the FBI is a corrupt org at all. They've been taking this on all season but it was full on this ep even with the Dr. They wearing a MAGA hat. Anyway only X Files could have such a disjointed crazy ep and pull it off.


Mike V. said...

XFiles - I loved that they addressed the Mandela Effect. Not sure if you've ever heard of it before, but it is pretty crazy. Berenstain vs. Berenstein Bears. Shazaam vs. Kazaam. Chick Fil-A vs. Chic Fil-a They certainly got me on a few of them. Totally makes sense that X-Files would explore this. Yeah the Trump stuff (on any show) is just comical at this point. It's everywhere. The episode was hilarious in tone. My favorite of this season so far.

Vikings - Since they mentioned Rollo in the preview I figured we'd see him. Kinda blew the cliffhanger there. lol And I really thought they were going to finally kill Lagertha, but yet again she lives to see another day! lol

MJ said...

This is Us - damn slow cooker ! And kids that prevented mom from buying those batteries. LOL

Shameless - know you are behind. can't wait for you to get to the ep about the toes. That is all I will say

Happy! - OMG - this show is nuts. Can't believe it is on SyFy with what they just had in their ep

Mike V. said...

Shameless - We watched 2 this week. Don't think I saw the toes one yet. lol Frank is finally back in America. Fiona got with the dude with all the kids. Lip got back with Sierra (at least for one night). Ian got back with his dude/chick. Carl accidentally got engaged. lol Straight out of Friends!

This is Us - Yep. Crock Pot is getting hammered on twitter and had to defend its product. lol How about the irony that the Fire Chief from Rescue Me gave him the defective Crock Pot? lol I'm sure Superbowl ep is going to be an emotional rollercoaster. We'll see what kind of mood the town is in here after the game! lol

Happy - i don't know anything about this one.

Counterpart - So i just changed my FIos plan and I'm losing Starz. My Plex friends have this one so I may still watch. Actually losing HBO too but I'm gonna subscribe to HBO Now (streaming service).

Anonymous said...

Couterpoint--Another good ep. You could sense at the end that prime is setting our guy up for a switch. Decent overview of what happened, at least generally. But not why, etc.

Vikings--Lagertha--really, she turned totally silver haired in short time frame. They are afraid to loose her. Glad AStrid is gone. Rollo may serve as a bridge character to move beyond Lagertha later?

LOL, on the REAL Vikings, again LOL. They were trying to say that Ivar could be buried in England---showed us his possible grave. SEriously, Ivar would have been put on a ship and burned like other major leaders. OH well. BTW, the bones of the guy buried were huge for the time.


MJ said...

Enough with the re-boots ! Roseanne, Murphy Brown, Charmed, Greatest American Hero, Will & Grace. Probably some I am fogetting. Don't think I will watch any of them. And hearing Magnum PI and Cagney & Lacey reboots have a pilot only order.

Good Place - watched 4 of them. I'd forgotten about Bad Janet. And drunk Good Janet was great. Loved the hot air balloon to the real good place - and the fact that it could not take them any way. But the trip thru the Bad Place was awesome. As was the party in the museum of Human Misery. Maya rudolph was perfect as the judge. Did you catch her Bloodlines and Kyle Chandler comment ?

Read this today

Shield - they are saying the reveal of the Blue guy's 'seer' will be shocking. I have no ideas on it at all.

Shameless - yeah you are a few behind. You will def know when you get to the 'toes' episode. Finale was last night I think. Didn't watch it.

Starz - we will be adding it soon for a show my husband watches coming back. Might check out Counterpoint then.

Mike V. said...

Counterpoint - Still on the to do list!

Vikings - I'm thinking maybe they're prepping to send off Lagertha by the end of the season. As for Rollo? No idea. lol

Reboots - I heard about Magnum PI as well. The problem is when one is successful everyone wants a piece! All these shows are coming out of hibernation. Binge TV has made this all possible. I'm sure the white whale is still FRIENDS, but the producers have been clear that they never have intentions of revisiting them. It was a "point in time" of their lives and makes no sense to revisit "where they are now".

Good Place - Loved the Kyle Chandler line. I even had to rewind the whole episode because when my wife didn't laugh I knew she wasn't paying attention. lol Still will say it's my favorite show on TV right now. I'm sad that the finale is this Thursday, but that's the sign of a good show firing on all cylinders!

I'll have to check the vulture article!

SHIELD - I didn't even know the blue guy has a "SEER" lol But I'm all caught up! It will be interesting to see how they break the time loop!

Shameless - I'm now another one behind, but I knew it was the finale. I saw Emmy Rossum (Fiona) tweeted that there's one more season.

Mike V. said...

Loved that good place link! Also love that lost is a major inspiration for the show. Pretty much explains why I am loving it! And can’t believe all of those oz references went right over my head. Lol

Anonymous said...

Viking celebration from the Shetland Islands.


MJ said...

Good Place - other then the balloon I did not pick up on the Oz of it all. LOL Knew you'd like the article as soon as they referenced Lost.

Shameless - yeah I have not seen the finale.

Flash - not liking Barry in prison. Camille being able to read thoughts while amusing was just odd. Especially the lame-ass reason for it. Show is not what it used to be

Alienist - any one check it out ? It's ok. Nothing to rave about

Mike V. said...

Good Place - It's just funny because I absolutely love the show. And I'll talk to my wife about it and she says she thinks it's funny but doesn't get as excited about it as me. I had never made the connection to the similarities with LOST so it makes a lot of sense. Totally in my wheelhouse! FINALE Tonight! Kinda bittersweet. But leaving you wanting more is a mark of a great show!

Shameless - Catching up. We have 2 left. Still didn't see any toe thing. lol But Carl got married. That girl is nutso. I didn't like her at first, but now she's so insane that I can't help but find myself laughing! Kevin and Veronica pimping out the Russian is hilarious. Poor Lip with his mentor dude dying, but looks like an arc is starting with his daughter.

Flash - Camille reading minds made me think of "what women want" that Mel Gibson movie with the same super power. lol Looks like Barry's prison stint has just elevated to a new level so maybe it'll be over soon. I really enjoyed the first half of this season....I'm not hating the 2nd half as much as you though. lol It's okay.

Alienist - Another one I haven't heard of!

Punisher - still plowing through. Might be on episode 6 or 7.

X-Files - Nice reunion with William. Pierre Chang for the win!

MJ said...

Good Place finale - did not watch but saw this article. I haven't read yet of course so don't read this unless you have seen the finale

Shameless - Toes should be coming. LOL And yes - that girl is a total psycho.

Flash - not hating it but not loving it like I once did. LOL

Superbowl - I can't bring myself to root for those Eagles - but I am rooting for New England to lose. Cause I hate them more.

Mike V. said...

Good Place - Great finale. Kinda saw it coming where they were going, but sets up an awesome premise for next season! Thanks for link, I'll check out.

Shameless - No updates from yesterday but we'll get it done! lol

Flash - understood.

Superbowl - E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!! :) LOL on rooting for Pats to lose. I think most of the country is. But I'm sure it pains many to side with Eagles fans. lol I've been a Niners Fan and Eagles supporter most of my life. But, can't help but root for this team this year. It's been a pretty great ride. Niners were looking good at the end of the season, but I'm not sure where I'm at with my love for the team thousands of miles away these days. Helps to have my kids really into the birds this year too. Should be an interesting game. We'll see if the refs are sitting on their whistles in the 4th quarter while Brady stages a heroic comeback. (rolling my eyes if you can't tell)

SW SB - rumors are we'll be getting a tease for a SOLO trailer during the Super Bowl with a trailer premiere on Monday on GMA. The movie comes out Memorial day. with all the behind the scenes drama they have to do some intense marketing the next few months. But with Last Jedi just wrapping up its marketing it makes sense that they wanted to separate the 2 (even though we have 3 Marvel movie previews circulating right now lol)

MJ said...

Good Place - Damon Lindeloff and Mike Shur did an interview together.

Eagles - knew you were a 49ers fan - not about Eagles supporter.

Solo - not even sure I am interested. But I know I will see it. LOL

Hearing Black Panther is getting awesome reviews

Mike V. said...

Solo - The thing that gives me hope is that Lawrence Kasdan (Empire, Jedi, Force Awakens) wrote this with his son. It's his swan song to writing Han Solo dialogue. Even in Empire he was the guy that wrote Han. Rumors were everyone was very excited about the script. Then there was turmoil with the Lego Movie guys allowing alternate takes from the cast and going off script and turning the movie into a comedy. Ron Howard hopefully steered the ship. I'm not thrilled about the concept of the movie, but I'll take anything star wars.

Black Panther - hearing the same. Looking forward to seeing it at some point!

Eagles - yeah, I've always rooted for the Eagles except when they played the Niners. But the Eagles fans always drove me nuts. Granted, it's the same fans that root for the flyers and Phillies but somehow it's a little different with the birds! lol But it's tough not to get excited when my 6 year old is so excited about the team this year. :)

Good Place - Nice! Gotta read that one!

Leslie said...

Hey guys! Just checking in to see if anyone stayed up to watch This is Us.

Mike V. said...

This is us - :( We'll watch tonight. Things were quite festive in the Philadelphia area last night. Still I was kinda upset when my friend changed the channel to local coverage when This Is Us started. lol I saw the first minute.

On a related note - HOW BOUT DEM BIRDS!?!?!?!?

Mike V. said...

Solo - And how bout that SOLO SB TV Spot and Trailer this morning?? Looking like a solid film. Alden - not sure about his solo yet. I'm sure he'll be fine (just won't be Harrison), but Donald Glover as Lando? Perfect casting. I can't wait!

MJ said...

Shameless - can't even believe Frank fit in that port-a-potty ! LOL And Carl just leaves the crazy with at his families home to deal with ! Ian - don't even know about him. We've seen him off his meds - this seems different to me. So did Liam give the wrong code or did the family change it ?

Shield - that was crazy stuff with who the Blue mans 'seer' was. No way Coulsen is dying. Just no way.

Good place finale - so they went back to Earth before their deaths ? I don't agree with Michael that they would have become better persons on their own had they not died - and of course that did not happen for long. I guess the bringing back of Chidi in her life is the signal that that is what season will be ? Could be fun.

Leslie ! how are you ? Haven't heard from you in a long time.

This is Us - def stayed up and watched. Very sad that he died of smoke inhalation later - after everyone thought all was good. Sweet that Tessa becomes a social worker in the future.

Eagles - was a very good game. Am happy for the fans after all these years. But yeah - Eagles fans are a breed apart and while a lot of good - so many are not. They are obnoxious winners and losers. LOL

Mike V. said...

Shameless - I think that's still an episode I haven't seen! lol We still have 2 to watch. We've been busy with other stuff. :)

Shield - the Blue Man's seer...Future YO YO? I think I missed all the discussion about a seer. lol But I followed the whole story. Yeah I don't see him dying either. Maybe by the end of the series to kind of fall in line with his fate in The Avengers.

Good Place - It wasn't that they would become better people on their own. I thought they agreed that one good gesture might turn the tides. Didn't someone save Eleanor? Now there's a ripple effect from there. I would assume they will all find each other in the living world now. It's a nice twist. I saw it coming, but it was still good. Here's the thing though...season 1 is on Netflix now so I've been rewatching a little. Chidi actually doesn't speak English. They were only both speaking the same language because the "Good place" was designed so everyone hears what they understand in their own language. In the season 2 finale his 3 hour youtube video was in English and they were both speaking English when they met. I'm sure it's just sitcom oversight (there's plenty in Friends that I can call out! Even worse it's literally from one episode in season 1 to the next episode.), but sometimes continuity stuff like that can be annoying on a rewatch! lol

And yes HI LESLIE! Welcome back!

This is Us - What an episode. Very cool with the flash forward. And then Deja coming back! They really hit us with the feels. I think the one that hit me the most was Kevin talking to his dad at the tree and then talking to his mom on the phone later when he got her to laugh. I'm almost crying thinking about it now! But yeah some rough stuff with Jack's death. They turned that man into a super hero that no Dad in real life or fictional life can live up to! LOL He went out a hero too.

Eagles - lol....yes. I'm not sure how I feel about it but I'll be going to the parade with some of those said obnoxious fans. My friend was on the floor crying when they won the game. I was excited, but it's never been a life/death matter to me! If the Flyers won??? That might be a whole different story! But, really they would've had to have won in the early 2000s for me to be at PEAK CARING. lol Phillies in 2008 was pretty special for me. My kids will never know the drought that our city faced (and granted, it'll probably be another 10 years for another championship lol).....I have video of my son right after the Eagles won screaming, "this is the best day of my life!!!!" LOL Too cute. They've made a fan for life with that kid.

Leslie said...

Thanks Mike and MJ, I'm doing okay. Have had a lot going on!

This is Us - Lots of heart strings tugged on as always with this show, but I love it! It was great that Jack didn't die in the fire, but then SO awful that he died just when they thought all was gonna be okay. I liked the part with Kevin at the tree, too, making his mom laugh! And, I liked that they showed that each kid handled the anniversary differently because it's true that we don't all grieve the same.

Breaking Bad - Would you believe we are finally watching this? We are toward the end of Season 2.

Leslie said...

Mike - I forgot to ask. Are you planning to check out the new American Idol?

Mike V. said...

BB - Awesome!!! Enjoy the ride! Watch Better call Saul afterwards! But BB is definitely the superior series. Saul is still really good.

Idol - I'll definitely be tuning in. Recapping??? Not so sure. I was happy to be done with it! lol I'm still kinda bitter they brought it back so soon. Fox was planning to revive in 2020 and Freemantle didn't want to wait that long so they sold it to ABC. And then they couldn't lock down Kelly as a judge because The Voice rushed the signing of her. So I'm actually excited about THE VOICE this season. lol Haven't watched since season 2 probably.

MJ said...

Shameless - oops. Sorry. Surely you've gotten to the toes then ?

Shield - yes ! Future YoYo was his seer. Very shocking reveal. But his fate from the Avengers is how Shield started. He found out he had died and been brought back during the series run - so alignment needed

Good place - I have no recollection that Chidi doesn't speak English. What does he speak ?

This is Us - Deja ? No - I thought that was Tessa in the future placing that boy. You watch Tuesdays ? I lost it when they doctor who deliver them all showed up. My sister and I have a rating system for this show - instead of stars its 3 tissue episode. LOL

Breaking Bad - good for you Leslie. And excellent show.

MJ said...

Flash - meant to comment on this show - whaaaaat ? DeVoe is now in the woman Jinx ? Crazy. And have you finally noticed how her hair is stick straight in the lab while not when not in the lab ? Awfully convenient that Elongated can suddenly morph into others. Just saying

Mike V. said...

Shield - no I know it was resolved in show. But he also doesn’t appear in the mcu films. And if he died at the end of shield tv show they wouldn’t have to explain where he was and people they never watch the show can go on thinking he died. It really doesn’t matter much either way. Just feels like something they might do to me. Lol

Flash - I’m with you on elongated morphing. That came out of nowhere and he was a pro at it by the end of the ep. lol I think devoe is in all of those bus people now. It was just the girl that was last and that was shown.

Shameless - nope still 2 behind. Lol we’ve been busy!

This is us - yes it was Tess in the future. But in the present deja came back to them. We were meant to think the boy would be coming to them but it was deja instead.

Good place - it was a one off line and I don’t remember the language. I’m guessing it was an oversight. Or just something they hope people would not pick up on. Or maybe they are still dead and that’s a big clue. Lol maybe they’re being tested in the afterlife instead of real life.

Anonymous said...

Counterpoint is moving along great with some twists. But, it's getting a little old when people are dead but aren't. Most shows are getting predictible with this stuff now.

Seals--probably one of my favorites lately, but off for now.

Shield, you never know who's going to be alive, ever. So, I just let it flow and realize that the canon is really non existent.


Mike V. said...

Shameless - Watched the toe episode. wow. lol Got one more to go.

SHIELD- agreed. I was just talking about the "END GAME" of the show in that it would make sense if Coulson died at the end. So there's really no loose ends with the films. Like people that never watched Agents of SHIELD can go on believing Coulson died and they'd be right. It really doesn't matter either way though. It's not like Coulson will reappear in the movies anyway. lol

Counterpoint - I got rid of stars when I changed my cable plan. I still can access on PLEX, but just haven't had a chance.

Star Wars News - You guys see Benioff and Weiss are getting a series of films now too? I'd be much more excited about it if they were adapting some Legacy Novels into Canon since we know they are great adaptors. It'll be interesting to see what they're cooking up. But now we have Rian Johnson making a trilogy unattached to the Skywalkers, Benioff and Weiss making a "series" of films (not necessarily related projects I guess) and once the Disney Streaming Channel goes live there could be multiple Live Action Star Wars Series (and possible animated as well) going up. Exciting and possibly scary time to be a Star Wars fan. There's always a fear of oversaturation! lol Still patiently waiting for my official Obi-Wan Film announcement with Ewan.

MJ said...

This is Us - jeez - I think I totally forget DeJa coming back.

Shameless - finally ! LOL I didn't think it was so close to season end though. Yeah - it was nuts. He's so casual about it too. But at least he cauterized it.

Homeland - didn't watch premier yet

SW - yeah - now it's getting out of control. Didn't know about either of the new sets of movies. SIGH

Mike V. said...

Shameless - It was nasty. we could barely look at the tv! lol he just threw them in the sink!! But yes at least he did cauterize them.

Homeland - I'm so far behind now it's not even funny. maybe 3 seasons? lol

SW - You didn't know Rian got a trilogy? It was actually announced prior to The Last Jedi being released showing a huge boost of confidence Disney had in TLJ. (I think Might have even mentioned it somewhere in this thread above. lol Anyway, now with the mixed reaction to the film some fans are concerned. But, the guy has a great eye and he tells some good stories. With a brand new slate of characters and a story all his own, he could do some interesting stuff in the SW sandbox. I'll be there when it comes out! But yes, it is out of control. Granted, I remember when Marvel announced they had films slated out until 2028 and it was overwhelming...but once you get in the cycle it's just a few films a year. Don't know if SW can or should follow that model though.

Mike V. said...

Shameless - Finally finished! Glad Lip decided to be on his own for awhile, finished his bike and took in that girl. Frank in the still living up to its name! Prenup storyline...hilarious. Good on Liam for not ratting out his friend. I just read your post...I think Liam gave the wrong code. And yeah Carl just leaving is hilarious too! I can't remember how Fiona's story ended. She kept the building though I think...just not sure if she made a positive move at the end. (did you notice her lawyer was Janice from Friends?? lol) I did fall asleep for about 10 minutes around the 40 minute mark so there's a chance I missed something. Yeah...Ian is a mess, but seems to be supporting something he believes clue about the meds! 1 more season I think??

Ready Player One - Getting excited for this movie. I'm 60-70% through the book. It's an 80's pop culture haven which is awesome since Spielberg is directing the movie. I'm not sure how they will have gotten the rights to have the stuff in the book. It's a WB movie, so I'm guessing that means no Star Wars references. lol

MJ said...

SW - nope - never heard it.

Shameless - agree on lip - but felt bad for Sierra. And why would Kevin no tell Svetlana before the ceremony? Too funny. I did recognize Janice ! And yeah - Fina got her apartment back and is just in limbo with the guy. Not good or bad. I know they are back for next year - but yeah - time to end it I think. Poor Deb though - baby daddy now wants partial custody.

Ready Player One - not heard of it. LOL - I just watched Blind Side - been on my DVR for years. LOL

Mike V. said...

Ready Player One - Finished the book. It was good! Then I googled it and book snobs were saying how "surface level" the writing is. Someone on Reddit called it "Twilight for Men" lol I wouldn't go that far. There certainly were a lot of 80s references that felt shoehorned into the writing, but I appreciated it. I thought the story was fun and am interested to see what Spielberg can do with it. he's adapted Jurassic Park among other books that don't follow it exactly. He might be able to add the emotional depth that the book kinda glasses over. It's basically set in a future dystopian US where people's only escape from real world horrors is in an advanced VR Video Game that has become a way of life for people. And the creator's final act before dying was to create a great easter egg hunt within the construct. Drama ensues. 80s/90s nostalgia is high.

Punisher - I'm on the last episode. Micro's family is reunited with him. Frank killed Director Chapelle from 24 (forget his name on punisher lol...put his thumbs through his eye(s)) So I guess now he's still gotta go after Russo but he's not at 100%. Series is well made. But I'm looking forward to being through it.

Legends - Enjoyed the episode. Had to remember what it was....the exorcism. Always have fun with this show.

Mindhunter - I think we're on ep 6 or 7....I made the mistake of trying to watch one last night after some wine at V-day dinner. lol Fell asleep! The show is good, but really tough to watch at 10pm every night.

Altered Carbon - Hearing good things about this one. Might put on list. (Netflix)

Black Panther - Definitely plan to go, but probably skipping this wknd. I'm hearing great things.

Good Place - I was listening to a podcast and they brought up Chidi speaking English as well. Apparently, it's causing a whole debate on if they're truly alive or in another sim. I'm going to say that it's definitely intentional and a clue that they are still dead. I may power through Good Place S1 again when I'm done Punisher. I like the show that much! lol

Westworld - that comes back in the GoT slot this year (April)....I really should be rewatching that. lol

Ok I think I'm done naming random shows, books and movies now! :)

Mike V. said...

Black Panther - Ended up seeing yesterday. Very good! Ryan Coogler is 2 for 2 in movies I've seen of his (and I've heard 3 for 3 lol). He also directed Creed. Michael B. Jordan has been in all of his movies and he's awesome in them all. Good Marvel movie, but didn't feel like a marvel movie for a lot of it which was cool. Definitely ties in though and looking forward to May for Avengers: Infinity War! And it goes with out saying -> Solo. :)

Legends - Always love a Groundhog day episode of a show or movie interpretation (Edge of Tomorrow anyone?? Love that film). This was no exception and even better that they kept referring to groundhog day and even went through the story beats of the movie. lol

Mike V. said...

Atlanta - Finally catching up on this one too. We have 2 eps left. Season 2 premieres March 1 I think. If this is any indication of how I'll catch up on other shows then I'll probably be getting to wrapping up Timeless soon. lol

Anonymous said...

I plan to watch this on the 26th. Great cast!


Mike V. said...

The Terror - Thanks for the heads up Richard. Keep us posted on how it is. Not sure I can fit it in. I guess this will be coming on after The Walking Dead since that's returning this Sunday as well. Speaking of...

TWD - Did anyone see the article about a certain casting on a new TV show? I won't spoil, but any perusing of TV websites will have already spoiled. This happened last year too. With the way this show is written, filmed and the airing is split throughout the year we're essentially finding out about character deaths before we even get a chance to watch the show. lol This one doesn't surprise me at this point. But, still sucks! Then again, I'm ready for a series finale with this show anyway so I'm past the point of caring! lol I am interested to see how they will finish off the Carl arc though.

Westworld - I just saw that HBO is building a Westworld theme park in Austin, Texas where there are "no limits". Apparently, it's just for SXSW weekend, but WHAAAT!?!?!?! lol There is no way they can do what the show does! lol Especially with humans playing the parts of hosts. lol My wife was just in Austin last month and told me she went to a venue that reminded her of Westworld. I wonder if they'll be utilizing that venue for this "event weekend" lol

Mike V. said...

Good Place - So finished my binge rewatch of season 1 and moved onto season 2 (thanks Plex!). Remember the episode with the Trolley Scenario? In that episode Michael describes it as an "impossibly life like simulation". I think this is more clues that in season 2 finale (and most likely season 3) they are still dead and running through a very large simulation. Also, it would explain how Michael was able to show up there as well.

Atlanta - Finally finished season 1. Ready for next week!

TWD - Back Sunday! Once again, I'm not ready to start recapping. lol

The Voice - I haven't watched consistently since season 2, maybe? But with KC as a coach...I'm all in armed with a fast forward button! lol